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Same-Sex-Marriage Flashpoint: Alabama Considers Quitting The Marriage Business

Feb 27, 2018
Originally published on March 16, 2018 10:46 am

Couples – gay or straight — looking for a marriage license in Pike County, Ala. won't get one from local probate judge Wes Allen.

"We have not issued any marriage licenses since Feb. 9, 2015," Allen says.

That's when a federal judge struck down Alabama's ban on same-sex marriage. The state's then-Chief Justice Roy Moore told local officials they weren't bound by the federal court ruling. That threw Alabama's marriage license system into chaos. Some offices closed altogether.

For Allen, the decision came down to his religious beliefs.

"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and firmly believe that biblical world view," he says. "And I couldn't put my signature on a marriage license that I knew not to be marriage."

As many as 12 other judges adopted similar policies after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage. Some, like Allen, closed their marriage license division. Others will sign the license but quit performing marriage ceremonies.

Now Alabama and several other states are considering doing away with marriage licenses altogether. Alabama's legislation comes after the state became a flashpoint in the debate over same-sex marriage.

After counties began refusing licenses, they braced for lawsuits. But no one has sued — that could be because Alabama's marriage law says probate judges may issue marriage licenses, not shall.

"Alabama's been one of the toughest states when it comes to access to marriage equality because of our marriage code and because the way it's written for judges to choose to issue licenses or not," says Eva Kendrick, state director for the Human Rights Campaign, which advocates for LGBT rights.

She says access depends on where you live. Metropolitan areas like Birmingham and Montgomery are open for business, but remote rural areas are more of a patchwork, forcing people to travel elsewhere to get a license.

"In those counties Alabamians did not have equal access to marriage," says Kendrick.

The state Senate has overwhelmingly approved a bill that would get rid of marriage licenses altogether. Instead, couples would submit a form affirming they've met the legal requirements for getting married and then record a marriage contract at the probate office.

"Basically we're getting Alabama out of the marriage business," says Republican Rep. Paul Beckman, who is sponsoring the bill in the Alabama House, where it has passed the Judiciary Committee.

Republican state Sen. Greg Albritton has tried for several years to change the system to a marriage contract.

"It allows the probate judge to not be the gatekeeper by order of the state of say who can marry and who can't," Albritton says.

Albritton says he's a traditionalist who believes marriage should be between one man and one woman. But he says since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage, Alabama's system hasn't worked.

"I disagree with that opinion. However, they make the law," says Albritton. "I'm trying to accommodate that and trying to find a way that we can accommodate as many people and hurt no one."

But not everyone agrees that the legislation does no harm.

"I just think it cheapens the value of the most sacred relationship in the world," says Republican Phil Williams, the lone senator to vote against the bill.

"When you take marriage and you reduce it to a mere contract, it's almost like you're just doing nothing more than recording the deed to your property at the courthouse," he says. "You're just taking the contract down there and the probate judge is just the clerk."

He says probate judges have greater responsibility, for instance, they're charged with making sure that couples are old enough and able to consent to marriage.

The bill is facing more opposition in the Alabama House. Democratic state Rep. Merika Coleman says the change isn't necessary if public officials would just do their jobs.

"It's unfortunate because there are some probate judges .... that do not want to adhere to the rule of law," says Coleman. "So because of that, now some legislators in the state of Alabama want to get out of the business of marriage in the traditional sense."

She's concerned the new system might not be recognized by other states or the federal government.

"Specifically on Social Security and with military benefits they ask for a marriage license," she says. "They do not ask for a marriage contract."

But the concept of a marriage contract is being considered in other states. Similar legislation has been proposed in Oklahoma, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri and Montana.

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All right, Alabama and several other states are now considering doing away with marriage licenses. The legislation in Alabama comes after that state became a flashpoint in the debate over same-sex marriage. And now a lawmaker there says getting out of the marriage license business altogether could eliminate the controversy. Here's NPR's Debbie Elliott.

DEBBIE ELLIOTT, BYLINE: Couples, gay or straight, looking for a marriage license in Pike County, Ala., won't get one from local probate Judge Wes Allen.

WES ALLEN: We have not issued any marriage licenses since February - I think - 9, 2015.

ELLIOTT: That's when a federal judge struck down Alabama's ban on same-sex marriage. The state's then-chief justice, Roy Moore, told local officials they weren't bound by the federal court ruling. That threw Alabama's marriage license system into chaos. Some offices closed altogether. For Pike County probate Judge Wes Allen, the decision came down to his faith.

ALLEN: I've got deeply held religious beliefs. You know, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. And I firmly believe that biblical worldview. And I couldn't put my signature on a marriage license that I knew not to be marriage.

ELLIOTT: As many as 12 other judges adopted similar policies after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage. Some, like Allen, closed their marriage license division. Others will sign the license but quit performing marriage ceremonies. Counties initially braced for lawsuits, but no one has sued. That could be because Alabama's marriage law says probate judges may issue marriage licenses, not shall. Eva Kendrick is the state director for the Human Rights Campaign, which advocates for LGBT rights.

EVA KENDRICK: Well, in many ways, Alabama's been one of the toughest states when it comes to access to marriage equality because of our marriage code and because the way it's written for judges to choose to issue licenses or not.

ELLIOTT: She says access depends on where you live, with metropolitan areas like Birmingham and Montgomery open for business, but remote rural areas more of a patchwork, forcing people to travel elsewhere to get a license.

KENDRICK: So we saw that in those counties, Alabamians did not have equal access to marriage.

ELLIOTT: Republican State Senator Greg Albritton is sponsoring a bill with a goal to remove probate judges as the gatekeepers to marriage. It gets rid of marriage licenses. Instead, couples would submit a form affirming they've met the legal requirements for getting married and then record a marriage contract at the probate office. The state Senate has overwhelmingly approved the legislation. Albritton says since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage, Alabama's system hasn't worked.

GREG ALBRITTON: I disagree with that opinion. However, they make the law. I'm trying to accommodate that and trying to find a way that we can accommodate as many people and hurt no one.

ELLIOTT: But not everyone agrees that the legislation does no harm.

PHIL WILLIAMS: I just think it cheapens the value of the most sacred relationship in the world.

ELLIOTT: Republican Phil Williams was the lone vote against the bill in the Alabama Senate.

WILLIAMS: When you take marriage and you reduce it to mere contract, it's almost like you're just doing nothing more than recording the deed to your property at the courthouse. You're just taking the contract down there, and the probate judge is just the clerk. He just takes it and files it. To me, that just sort of demeans the value.

ELLIOTT: He says probate judges are more than clerks. For instance, they're charged with making sure that couples are old enough and able to consent to marriage. The bill is now pending in the Alabama House, where it's facing more opposition. Democratic State Representative Merika Coleman says the change isn't necessary if public officials would just do their jobs.

MERIKA COLEMAN: It's unfortunate because there are some probate judges and some folks in clerks' offices that do not want to adhere to the rule of law. So because of that, now some legislators in the state of Alabama want to get out of the business of marriage in the traditional sense.

ELLIOTT: She's concerned the new system might not be recognized by other states or the federal government.

COLEMAN: Specifically, in Social Security and with military benefits, they ask for a marriage license. They do not ask for a marriage contract.

ELLIOTT: But the concept of a marriage contract is being considered by other states. Similar legislation has been proposed in Oklahoma, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri and Montana. Debbie Elliott, NPR News, Montgomery, Ala.

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